Political commentators Brigitte Morten and Gareth Hughes

Brigitte and Gareth discuss ongoing coalition talks and reflect on Labour's transition to the Opposition. Brigitte Morten is a director with public and commercial law firm Franks Ogilvie and a former senior ministerial advisor for the previous National-led government, a National Party member and currently volunteering for the party's deputy leader, Nicola Willis. Gareth Hughes is a former Green MP and now works for the Wellbeing Economy Alliance Aotearoa.