#219 - The Professionalization of CISOs (with Steve Zalewski & Tyson Kopczynski)

This podcast episode discusses the formation of a professional association for CISOs, driven by increasing personal liability risks faced by these executives. The conversation centers on establishing a formal definition and accreditation process for the CISO role, moving beyond existing certifications to demonstrate operational and theoretical expertise. This professionalization effort aims to reduce personal liability through a tailored insurance product, negotiated collectively by the association, and preempt potentially ill-defined government regulations. Ultimately, the goal is to create a structured, respected profession for CISOs, offering benefits such as insurance, professional development, and a unified voice within the industry. Professional Association of CISOs - https://theciso.org/ Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BNeUzSyPYX-vAYwQl9qCi0GhknYhKnWF/  Chapters  00:00 Introduction to Professionalizing the CISO Role 00:52 The Genesis of a Professional Association 03:39 Challenges and Legal Liabilities for CISOs 04:43 The Value of Joining the Association 06:24 Accreditation and Certification Process 10:38 Insurance and Risk Management for CISOs 18:45 Future Directions and Getting Involved