You're Listening to "The Dark Stream"

And now for something completely different. This episode is a show within a show. Get ready to step into The Dark Stream: it's a parody of one of those old late night paranormal, conspiracy, or confession call-in radio shows from the 1980's and 90's. And, yes, it's over-the-top and cheesy. In this episode, you'll hear some re-edited and never before aired sections from Perry's previous interviews with Rachel Tobac, Maxie Reynolds, and Chris Hadnagy. Guests: Rachael Tobac: (LinkedIn), CEO of SocialProof Security Maxie Reynolds (LinkedIn), Founder of Subsea Cloud Chris Hadnagy: (LinkedIn); CEO of Social Engineer, LLC; Founder of Innocent Lives Foundation; Founder of Social-Engineer.org Recommended Books and Resources: CNN coverage of Rachel Tobac using social engineering to ruin Donie O'Sullivan's day Human Hacking: Win Friends, Influence People, and Leave Them Better Off for Having Met You by Chris Hadnagy The Art of Attack: Attacker Mindset for Security Professionals by Maxie Reynolds Transformational Security Awareness: What Neuroscientists, Storytellers, and Marketers Can Teach Us About Driving Secure Behaviors by Perry Carpenter Production Credits: Additional voice talent provided by Rich Daigle (a.k.a. Mouth Almighty) and Sarah McQuiggan Music and Sound Effects by Blue Dot Sessions, Envato Elements, & Storyblocks. Artwork by Chris Machowski @ https://www.RansomWear.net/ and Mia Rune @ https://www.MiaRune.com. 8th Layer Insights theme music composed and performed by Marcos Moscat @ https://www.GameMusicTown.com/