Germany’s “turning point” or not?

Last month before the Bundestag, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz hammered home the need for a defense-capable Europe. His speech marked the anniversary of his groundbreaking pledge to deliver a “Zeitenwende,” or sea change, ending Germany’s long-standing, military-averse policies. But have Scholz and his government delivered? And what impact is it having on the Russian war in Ukraine? Hosts Soraya Sarhaddi Nelson and Rachel Tausendfreund discuss with the German Marshall Fund’s Guido Goldman Distinguished Scholar for Geostrategy Thomas Kleine-Brockhoff and Jana Puglierin, senior policy fellow at the European Council on Foreign Relations and head of its Berlin office. Dina Elsayed produced this episode.