Penn Jillette – Magic, Tricks, and Us
Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda - Podcast készítő Alan Alda - Keddek
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When we see a magic trick, is the magician fooling us, or are we fooling ourselves? Penn Jillette, the talking half of the magic team Penn and Teller, tells Alan how tricks are a test of how we process reality. Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/clearandvivid
